There is no god
As I promised Ruben, I will write something about GOD. I told him I finally realized what is god. So, I would like to talk a little about it here.
Ok before I get started. Let’s ask ourselves, what is god? Different religions have different gods, but generally, god can be considered as an almighty being, which stands above everything. What do I mean everything? Ok, if you want to be a god, here are some qualities you must have:
You need to know everything. What do I mean by everything? As a Physicist, when I say someone knows everything, then he/she knows exactly the values of both the position and the momentum of every single particle in the universe.
You must be able to do anything.
You must stand above all dimensional spaces, time, moral…. everything.
You must be good, but not evil! Of course, we all know god is good, but is that really true?
Ok for the first quality, which is god must know everything. If you read Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle before, you know that this is not possible. If you know everything, then you must violate this law of Physics. So now, what is the result if we follow this theory? This theory tells us, even god himself doesn’t know everything! He cannot predict both the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time. If god himself doesn’t know everything, do we still call him god?!?!
Let’s discuss 2nd quality now. God can do everything. Come on, do you really think it is possible to do anything? Can 1+1 be anything other than 2? Can a 2-D being see exactly how we 3-D beings look like? The answer is no. Next time if the religious people still argue with you, ask him this “Can god kills himself?” If god can kill himself, then he is not almighty being because he dies. But if he cannot kill himself, that means he cannot do something, again, he is not almighty. Need me to prove more?
3rd, he must stands above time, all dimensional spaces, moral and …. This is the most interesting and funny one. Let’s imagine a little about god, he stands above time, spaces, moral, existence… he is self containing… When you think deeper about it, doesn’t this sound exactly like our own universe? If our universe must be created by god, then who created god? Ok, you can say no one created god. Then tell me why universe must be created by god then? Why not unverse created itself? Like the theory of Big Bang? God is not the answer to everything, but it is a barrier for us human beings to find the answer to everything.
The last quality. God must be good, shouldn’t be evil. If god is really the best in the universe, or even outside the universe, then why he made evils or evil things to happen? If he got no choice but to make it, then he is not invincible, cos he got no choice. But if he got a choice, but still created evils, then he is not good. If he is not good, then why call him god?
Well, I want to tell everyone here something. There is nothing called INVINCIBLE in this universe. If there is, then paradoxes will appear. Don’t believe me? Let’s go back to god knows everything. If he knows everything which included the past, present and the future. What will happen? He will just become like a ‘factory worker’ or worse than that, he does whatever it is destined to be done because he knows everything. For example, he knows I was going to write this article, and now I am writing it, and he knows I am going to put it in my blog. So, he cannot do anything but just follow the order, and let me do all these. If he felt pissed and decided to make me not to criticize him in the article, and he wanted to make me to write an article which praises him. But the problem is, he couldn’t!!!! Because he knows everything. He got to let me finish this article to criticize him. If he could change my mind somehow, then he doesn’t know everything.
So now, why believe in god? Why pray? Why not read Physics and explore the universe together? Why not go outside and make a better world yourself? Instead of praying to god and ask him to do it? Furthermore, if there is god, he would have known everything, he would have made the most ideal universe he could. So, there’s really no point in praying.
So you think you really have faith? Think about it! For any religion, there will be something which they call it the ‘truth’. For examples, Christians have bible, Muslims have koran. Now, the followers accept the ‘truth’ and they need to have faith in those believes. What does this sound like? This sounds like you first decided to believe something, then you try to convince yourself and everybody around you to believe that the ‘truth’ is true.
Let me tell you a story. When I was a little kid, I believed in a lot of crazy things. For example, let me tell you a funny one. I was very naughty when I was young, I always fought with my mom. She was angry and told me “You better listen to me and stop fighting, for a kid to fight with the mom, the god will punish you with lightning strike!” Haha… I was so scared, I didn’t really dare to fight with my mom especially during raining. When I think about it now, I have no idea why I believed that. Perhaps because it was my mom who told me, and I chose to believe that it is a ‘truth’, and I convinced myself to believe it. By the way, if what my mom said was true, I would need many lives to survive till today. Hahahaha…
-Choy
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The following is a reply to the above post.
There is one more thing you forgot to mention Choy. As you know I have been thinking alot about this subject and I came to one of many conclusions about the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Perhaps God's intention is not to interfere with his creations. Perhaps he is just like you and me; a scientist. But maybe we humans overestimate his powers. Let me explain.
We know about M-theory and all, which says there are an infinite amount of universes. Ignoring the paradox about who created God first, thing about this. Maybe God created all the Laws of Physics in order for the multiverse to self-propagate. Then he added one last thing, that we call Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, so that noone, including himself, can ever interfere or know what is going to happen within the multiverse, or any of the universes. This means that even God cannot know what is going to happen in the future. The universe is entirely random, and God is just an Observer who cannot manipulate events. And since there are an infinite number of universes, he has an infinitely large sample of data to work with.
About God being good and not evil, look at what we are taught when becoming scientists or engineers. We must not involve any emotion in our experiments, analyses or research, for this may cause us to become biased. Just like this, God is void of any emotion and cannot and does not exist in our plane of existence, since he has no power to manipulate our universe due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
The result of all this randomness in the universe may even suprise God. For example the phenomena of life, or even intelligent life. Imagine what God may think of us. Is he interested? Is he afraid that we may one day come to learn of all the Laws of the universe, and even find a way around the safety of his Heisenberg Principle? If this happens, he would be in big trouble.
This of course is just one thought of God, if he exists at all. I think at this stage, we cannot really be sure whether he does exits or not, just like how we are unsure of how the universe works.
-Ruben
Ok before I get started. Let’s ask ourselves, what is god? Different religions have different gods, but generally, god can be considered as an almighty being, which stands above everything. What do I mean everything? Ok, if you want to be a god, here are some qualities you must have:
You need to know everything. What do I mean by everything? As a Physicist, when I say someone knows everything, then he/she knows exactly the values of both the position and the momentum of every single particle in the universe.
You must be able to do anything.
You must stand above all dimensional spaces, time, moral…. everything.
You must be good, but not evil! Of course, we all know god is good, but is that really true?
Ok for the first quality, which is god must know everything. If you read Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle before, you know that this is not possible. If you know everything, then you must violate this law of Physics. So now, what is the result if we follow this theory? This theory tells us, even god himself doesn’t know everything! He cannot predict both the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time. If god himself doesn’t know everything, do we still call him god?!?!
Let’s discuss 2nd quality now. God can do everything. Come on, do you really think it is possible to do anything? Can 1+1 be anything other than 2? Can a 2-D being see exactly how we 3-D beings look like? The answer is no. Next time if the religious people still argue with you, ask him this “Can god kills himself?” If god can kill himself, then he is not almighty being because he dies. But if he cannot kill himself, that means he cannot do something, again, he is not almighty. Need me to prove more?
3rd, he must stands above time, all dimensional spaces, moral and …. This is the most interesting and funny one. Let’s imagine a little about god, he stands above time, spaces, moral, existence… he is self containing… When you think deeper about it, doesn’t this sound exactly like our own universe? If our universe must be created by god, then who created god? Ok, you can say no one created god. Then tell me why universe must be created by god then? Why not unverse created itself? Like the theory of Big Bang? God is not the answer to everything, but it is a barrier for us human beings to find the answer to everything.
The last quality. God must be good, shouldn’t be evil. If god is really the best in the universe, or even outside the universe, then why he made evils or evil things to happen? If he got no choice but to make it, then he is not invincible, cos he got no choice. But if he got a choice, but still created evils, then he is not good. If he is not good, then why call him god?
Well, I want to tell everyone here something. There is nothing called INVINCIBLE in this universe. If there is, then paradoxes will appear. Don’t believe me? Let’s go back to god knows everything. If he knows everything which included the past, present and the future. What will happen? He will just become like a ‘factory worker’ or worse than that, he does whatever it is destined to be done because he knows everything. For example, he knows I was going to write this article, and now I am writing it, and he knows I am going to put it in my blog. So, he cannot do anything but just follow the order, and let me do all these. If he felt pissed and decided to make me not to criticize him in the article, and he wanted to make me to write an article which praises him. But the problem is, he couldn’t!!!! Because he knows everything. He got to let me finish this article to criticize him. If he could change my mind somehow, then he doesn’t know everything.
So now, why believe in god? Why pray? Why not read Physics and explore the universe together? Why not go outside and make a better world yourself? Instead of praying to god and ask him to do it? Furthermore, if there is god, he would have known everything, he would have made the most ideal universe he could. So, there’s really no point in praying.
So you think you really have faith? Think about it! For any religion, there will be something which they call it the ‘truth’. For examples, Christians have bible, Muslims have koran. Now, the followers accept the ‘truth’ and they need to have faith in those believes. What does this sound like? This sounds like you first decided to believe something, then you try to convince yourself and everybody around you to believe that the ‘truth’ is true.
Let me tell you a story. When I was a little kid, I believed in a lot of crazy things. For example, let me tell you a funny one. I was very naughty when I was young, I always fought with my mom. She was angry and told me “You better listen to me and stop fighting, for a kid to fight with the mom, the god will punish you with lightning strike!” Haha… I was so scared, I didn’t really dare to fight with my mom especially during raining. When I think about it now, I have no idea why I believed that. Perhaps because it was my mom who told me, and I chose to believe that it is a ‘truth’, and I convinced myself to believe it. By the way, if what my mom said was true, I would need many lives to survive till today. Hahahaha…
-Choy
(edit)
The following is a reply to the above post.
There is one more thing you forgot to mention Choy. As you know I have been thinking alot about this subject and I came to one of many conclusions about the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Perhaps God's intention is not to interfere with his creations. Perhaps he is just like you and me; a scientist. But maybe we humans overestimate his powers. Let me explain.
We know about M-theory and all, which says there are an infinite amount of universes. Ignoring the paradox about who created God first, thing about this. Maybe God created all the Laws of Physics in order for the multiverse to self-propagate. Then he added one last thing, that we call Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, so that noone, including himself, can ever interfere or know what is going to happen within the multiverse, or any of the universes. This means that even God cannot know what is going to happen in the future. The universe is entirely random, and God is just an Observer who cannot manipulate events. And since there are an infinite number of universes, he has an infinitely large sample of data to work with.
About God being good and not evil, look at what we are taught when becoming scientists or engineers. We must not involve any emotion in our experiments, analyses or research, for this may cause us to become biased. Just like this, God is void of any emotion and cannot and does not exist in our plane of existence, since he has no power to manipulate our universe due to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
The result of all this randomness in the universe may even suprise God. For example the phenomena of life, or even intelligent life. Imagine what God may think of us. Is he interested? Is he afraid that we may one day come to learn of all the Laws of the universe, and even find a way around the safety of his Heisenberg Principle? If this happens, he would be in big trouble.
This of course is just one thought of God, if he exists at all. I think at this stage, we cannot really be sure whether he does exits or not, just like how we are unsure of how the universe works.
-Ruben
posted by Modern Milesian at 9:04 am
3 Comments:
Ruben, by reading all your words... it just means that there is no need for a god to exist. I mean, why add a god when everything else work so perfectly without him?
If you have to add someone there to make our universe, why it must be the 'god' but not something else?
Did you do too much integration problems, till you have to add a constant to everything. Hehe... just a joke mate.
Haha. Yes integration is like back-tracking. So if you back-track through time, you come to unity (or a singularity). But if you know the limits (position and velocity of all particles) you can don't need to add a constant!!
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